Legislature(2023 - 2024)SENATE FINANCE 532

04/19/2023 01:30 PM Senate FINANCE

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Moved CSSB 107(FIN) Out of Committee
CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 41(FIN) am                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     capital    expenses   of    the   state's    integrated                                                                    
     comprehensive mental health  program; and providing for                                                                    
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:04:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bishop MOVED to ADOPT proposed committee substitute                                                                     
for CSHB 41(FIN), Work Draft 33-GH1349\S (Marx, 4/17/23).                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ecklund addressed page 7 of the document, which                                                                             
addressed changes to the proposed mental health bill.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET LANGUAGE CHANGES                                                                                      
    SB42 (VERSION A) TO SENATE CS FOR HB41 (VERSION S)                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     There  only differences  in  the  Mental Health  budget                                                                    
     language  are  the  sections  designed  to  mirror  the                                                                    
     operating sections  for the salary  adjustment language                                                                    
     and for the bonuses. The details are below.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     1. Revision  of Sec  10, which  is language  related to                                                                    
     salary  and benefit  adjustments for  bargaining units.                                                                    
     Two  additional  bargaining  units were  added  to  the                                                                    
     language  to  incorporate  additional  unions  and  the                                                                    
     addition to  clarify Bonuses  for certain  employees of                                                                    
     the executive branch.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     2. Addition of Section 8  and Section 12. This language                                                                    
     states that funding included in  the budget for BONUSES                                                                    
     FOR  CERTAIN  EMPLOYEES  OF  THE  EXECUTIVE  BRANCH  is                                                                    
     contingent upon                                                                                                            
          o the state and the applicable bargaining unit of                                                                     
          the employee entering into a letter of agreement                                                                      
          for the bonus AND that                                                                                                
          o the Department of  Administration provide a copy                                                                    
          of  the letter  of  agreement  to the  legislative                                                                    
          finance  division  in  electronic form  not  later                                                                    
          than 30 days after  the department enters into the                                                                    
          letter of agreement.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ecklund noted that the changes mirrored proposed                                                                            
changes in the operating budget.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman WITHDREW his OBJECTION. There being NO                                                                         
further OBJECTION, it was so ordered. The CS for CSHB
41(FIN) was ADOPTED.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CSHB 41(FIN) was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                        
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  relayed that the committee  would consider                                                                    
amendments and set  an amendment deadline of  2 o'clock p.m.                                                                    
for Friday,  April 21. He  relayed that the director  of the                                                                    
non-partisan LFD would give an  update of the state's fiscal                                                                    
picture. He  noted that there  were a couple of  large items                                                                    
that were  not in the  budget, primarily the  Permanent Fund                                                                    
Dividend  (PFD) and  education funding.  He emphasized  that                                                                    
there were  items that needed  to be included in  future CSs                                                                    
but contended  that the state  could not have  an unbalanced                                                                    
budget.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:07:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ALEXEI  PAINTER,  DIRECTOR,  LEGISLATIVE  FINANCE  DIVISION,                                                                    
spoke  to a  document entitled  "LFD 1"  (copy on  file). He                                                                    
cited that the  simplified document put numbers  to what Co-                                                                    
Chair  Stedman   discussed.  The   first  line   showed  the                                                                    
Department  of Revenue's  (DOR)  Spring  Forecast, based  on                                                                    
$73/bbl price  of oil. He  noted that the  Alaska Industrial                                                                    
Development  and  Export   Authority  (AIDEA)  dividend  was                                                                    
currently  not   in  the  proposed  budget,   which  reduced                                                                    
revenue. The amount  available on line 3  showed about $6.25                                                                    
billion, while  line 4 showed the  agency operations numbers                                                                    
in HB 39 and HB 41. Line 5 had statewide items.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter continued that Line  6 showed the capital budget                                                                    
from the first CS that  was released the previous week, plus                                                                    
the mental  health budget  capital items  that were  also in                                                                    
the CS that was just  adopted. The capital budget was $190.7                                                                    
million compared  to the  governor's amended  capital budget                                                                    
that  was a  bit  over  $300 million.  Line  7 showed  total                                                                    
appropriations  of about  $4.85 billion,  and Line  8 showed                                                                    
$1.4 billion remaining for the  PFD and additional education                                                                    
or other items as the committee chose.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  asked  if  Mr.  Painter  had  any  slides                                                                    
prepared that  might show what it  would look like to  pay a                                                                    
statutory dividend versus a 50/50 or other amount PFD's.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter  relayed that  he  did  not have  any  prepared                                                                    
slides but could tell the committee the numbers.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  noted that the  other body had  proposed a                                                                    
50/50  dividend  to  total  $1.763  billion.  He  asked  Mr.                                                                    
Painter about  the calculations  if the  budget were  to pay                                                                    
the amount out of the $1.4 billion.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter  cited that the  dividend level proposed  in the                                                                    
other  body  would leave  a  deficit  of approximately  $360                                                                    
million based on the CSs in front of the committee.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman noted that the  deficit would occur without                                                                    
including   additional  education   funding  or   additional                                                                    
capital budget funding.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter agreed.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Merrick  asked  if $190  million  for  the  capital                                                                    
budget captured all federal funds.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter thought  that  the CS  for  the capital  budget                                                                    
captured all the federal funds  but did not invest in state-                                                                    
funded projects beyond that amount.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked about the roughly  projected revenue                                                                    
if  the  committee decided  to  appropriate  funds for  K-12                                                                    
education and a 75/25 percent  PFD. He asked about projected                                                                    
revenue  for education  and capital  projects  if there  was                                                                    
lower than expected revenue.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter  explained that  the  75/25  dividend was  $880                                                                    
million,  which would  leave  about  $620 million  remaining                                                                    
that could go to additional  capital funds or K-12 education                                                                    
funding. For  reference, he  cited that  the other  body had                                                                    
considered  $175 million  in funding  outside the  education                                                                    
funding  formula.  The amount  was  not  funded due  to  the                                                                    
failure  of the  vote  to access  the Constitutional  Budget                                                                    
Reserve (CBR).  The bill currently before  the committee was                                                                    
roughly $100 million more.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:12:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman asked  if Mr.  Painter had  indicated that                                                                    
there was no K-12 funding in any currently proposed budget.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter  affirmed  there was  no  funding  proposed  in                                                                    
addition  to the  K-12 education  funding formula  in either                                                                    
the House  or Senate budget.  He continued that both  the CS                                                                    
being considered and the House  version of the budget funded                                                                    
the  K-12 statutory  formula as  it  currently existed.  The                                                                    
House had  included an amendment to  include funding outside                                                                    
the formula  funding from  the CBR.  When the  required vote                                                                    
failed the  funding was deleted  from the bill. Both  the CS                                                                    
being  considered,   and  the   other  body's   budget  only                                                                    
contained formula funding.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  thought the previous year  the legislature                                                                    
had added $58 million to  the formula funding, so if nothing                                                                    
additional was funded in the  current year it would actually                                                                    
be a reduction.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter affirmed that there  had been $57 million funded                                                                    
outside the  formula. He  continued that  while there  was a                                                                    
$30 Base  Student Allocation (BSA)  increase in  the current                                                                    
year,  it was  nowhere  near  to the  size  of the  previous                                                                    
year's increase.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman asked  Mr. Painter  to  prepare a  summary                                                                    
sheet for members  with illustrated options such  as what it                                                                    
would take to fund a 50/50  or 75/25 dividend. He noted that                                                                    
members would have to consider  a range for funding the BSA.                                                                    
He thought  there was a  desire by all committee  members to                                                                    
increase  the  BSA  and  have  a number  in  excess  of  the                                                                    
previous  year's funding  to varying  degrees. He  thought a                                                                    
summary would  also assist in  consideration of  the capital                                                                    
budget.  He   wanted  committee  members  to   consider  the                                                                    
possibility of  revenue in excess  of expectations,  as well                                                                    
as the  possibility of a  backstop in the case  that revenue                                                                    
fell below expectations. He  mentioned a waterfall provision                                                                    
for the  purpose of  forward funding  of education  or other                                                                    
items.  He  discussed  the  possibility  of  revisiting  the                                                                    
budget  in January  and February  to add  additional capital                                                                    
and maintenance money.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CSHB 41(FIN)  was HEARD  and HELD  in committee  for further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman handed the gavel to Co-Chair Olson.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:15:46 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:20:21 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Olson relayed  that the  committee would  consider                                                                    
two bills.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 53 Sponsor Statement version P.pdf SFIN 4/19/2023 1:30:00 PM
SFIN 5/3/2023 9:00:00 AM
SB 53
SB 53 Sectional Analysis version P.pdf SFIN 4/19/2023 1:30:00 PM
SFIN 5/3/2023 9:00:00 AM
SB 53
SB 53 Summary of Changes 4.12.2023.pdf SFIN 4/19/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 53
SB 53 Supporting Document - Frequently Asked Questions 3.10.2023.pdf SFIN 4/19/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 53
SB 53 Research - Forensic Psychiatric Hospital Feasibility Study Draft 2.1.2019.pdf SFIN 4/19/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 53
SB 53 Research - NCSL Competency to Stand Trial General Overview 11.1.2022.pdf SFIN 4/19/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 53
SB 53 Research - NCSL Spreadsheet State Involuntary Commitment 3.13.2023.pdf SFIN 4/19/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 53
SB 53 Research - NCSL Involuntary Commitment Timeline Maximums 3.13.2023.pdf SFIN 4/19/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 53
SB 53 Research - CSG Competency Report 10.1.2020.pdf SFIN 4/19/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 53
SB 53 Testimony Received 4.12.2023.pdf SFIN 4/19/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 53
SB 53 Research KTUU Article 2.15.2022.pdf SFIN 4/19/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 53
SB 53 LAW CJL 041423.pdf SFIN 4/19/2023 1:30:00 PM
SFIN 5/3/2023 9:00:00 AM
SB 53
SB 53 Support Schenker.pdf SFIN 4/19/2023 1:30:00 PM
SFIN 5/3/2023 9:00:00 AM
SB 53
Sb 53 Support Dolphin.pdf SFIN 4/19/2023 1:30:00 PM
SFIN 5/3/2023 9:00:00 AM
SB 53
SB 53 Testimony Dahl.pdf SFIN 4/19/2023 1:30:00 PM
SFIN 5/3/2023 9:00:00 AM
SB 53
SB 53 FCS IMH API 041723.pdf SFIN 4/19/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 53
HB 39 work draft version R.pdf SFIN 4/19/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 39
HB 41 work draft version S.pdf SFIN 4/19/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 41
HB 39-HB 41-SB 41 LFD SCS1FiscalPicture.pdf SFIN 4/19/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 39
HB 41
SB 41
HB 39-HB 41 SCS 1 Changes from Gov A - 4-19-23.pdf SFIN 4/19/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 39
HB 41